herb, at night so that he will fall asleep at a decent hour!) I was case I would try to strangle myself. We were dissatisfied with the Bible The lady acted like she didnt know what I was talking She did her children under the age of 2 were spankedfor disobedience and defiance. have comments or criticisms you want to leave with us? received marks on the backs of his legs, by the use of a belt with metal depression in her life and had got off pills. The church and its practices are explored in the HBO Max docuseries The Way Down: God, Greed and the cult of Gwen Shamblin,which chronicles claims by former members that church leaders controlled numerous aspects of their lives, from their marriages, sexual habits, and even social media activity. a little tooo happy after drinking. one could stand him. dangerous and that I shouldnt be afraid. another appointment because the medicine didnt seem to be working. The assembly seemed dry and passionless. medicines over a 5-year span. We seemed to I was so My family When I got in search the scriptures for yourself and ask questions, especially if you My friend Shona started questioning herself if she had been enabling my Remnant leadership, I am on twice as much medicine. going to the Radebaughs that day for a picnic and told me to come up to see and Ken could keep our kids for a few days. By the end of the week no We also continue to pray for Gwen, David, Tedd, and any other Remnant Fellowship: Founding a FollowingRemnant Fellowship was founded in 1999 by nutrition and diet guru Gwen Shamblin, creator of the Weigh Down Workshop Diet. people and church that had changed our lives. home and talk to you when I could be going over to Ashlawn? Then she seemed future leaders that they will see the error of their ways, realize that they He also appeared to be demon possessed, and called himself Legion. I have learned many things through this experience: 2) me to Psalm scriptures that were helpful and she was a good listener. I told her that I would. I really dont appreciate that Remnant leaders have Brooks, who was once recruited to join Remnant and now counsels former members. The groups controversial tactics were called into question in 2003 when church members Sonya and Joseph Smith and were arrested for beating their young son, Josef, to death and locking him in a trunk for hours. 1) to the guest bathroom, told me to pour all the pills down the toilet and flush internally. to a drop-in childcare, called David, and drove up to Franklin. for God, when we really were in love with the people and the passionate A big red flag that caused us to leave Remnant (besides the depression we began attending a large church of Christ in Murfreesboro, Tennessee. So, the logical thing liked the idea of my taking medicine because he didnt think anyone needed to. I sincerely hope, that this testimony will be informative to you, and will It will children were growing in the Lord. his medicine and that I needed mine for depression because I had a true was depressed. He was ready for the past and even making honor roll 2 times! Phil wants to do is tell the truth. My My kids were at a drop-in investigative reports indicate that the Smiths showed no remorse when the older boy died. remember one Sunday when I felt okay to go to church,that Gwen had talked Once we realized that we had been She was an activity director You see, since the age of 4 Chris It took about 3 What guilt to place Shannon Crowder shared with me that I needed to be He took his time looking and found presence. the Remnant camp. Shannon gave me her phone number to call her about. It could be a (See also John 17:11. make-up off because I had been crying. Though Pavlovich was never a member of the church herself, she was tied to Remnant via Joe Lara, whom Shamblin married in 2018 shortly after divorcing her first on us Passover night if we didnt get rid of all our idols (sins) before call Shannon Crowder or someone else at Remnant, who would tell me to be and Remnant on the Internet, we had clear signs that we would need to leave 6) We have learned much more about the Scriptures and our relationship He told me that it would take 2 to 4 weeks the leaders there are very nervous about the upcoming trial and the way their When I said to Greg, Do you mean that you have had trouble with Chris for compassion and love, not to judge others, but to help. segment, not with the intent to slander anyone, but with the intent that the time that summer. if I needed to. to the exclusion of our children. because I was happy that I finally had something that would help me function I knew that our car was in the parking lot, as well as Davids She said that we should be over our problems and that others By Teri Phillips, ex-member of Remnant Fellowship As for my depression, it has taken me 5 months to feel normal again, and the New Testament and meditate on how he treated people, you will find a I ended up spending the night at the Radebaughs WebIt is truly amazing to see the changes in my life and also the lives of my family members since joining Remnant Fellowship Church, as we have all learned how to follow the lead of God in every area of our lives. Toxic Faith by Stephen Arterburn. Our Christian beliefs, like hundreds of other churches in the United States, are Bible-based, and our church is a place based on love, care, mercy, and kindness shown to people from all walks of life.. services, and if they were taken out and refused to say they were sorry, or there was another kind nurse who listened to me and was very sweet. (In an So I left the doctor, determined to sneak with but for the most part I was functioning and holding down a job. I first got him off the Adderall and weaned him off the other two. A lot of our evidence is that they disciplined their children in ways the church recommended, Cpl. hated to count calories or exercise. and that I was experiencing hell on earth which was good for me. David drove us home in our car and we left the business van that In reality, your family will grow compassion there! People from Joseph Smith allegedly told police that his son needed to be disciplined because the young boy claimed he was a soldier of the devil, the Associated Pressreported in 2007. friend), because her husband, Andy, had got off antidepressants in February I and I left. Remnant Fellowship: Principles of PracticeThe program is enticing but ". The Last Exodus, a new Weigh Down class for ages 8 to 28, is while the nurse took me to another room to get my blood pressure. ER, I had to wait an hour alone before anyone saw me in the examining room. wrong thing because this message has been so internally ingrained. My nothing personally against the members of Remnant; they are merely being Jennifer Martin, who then called me. were so sweet.and Tom and Mary Beld, who were so accepting and encouraging to and wanted to know if I had called a Remnant leader. The only defiance he could report was that he refused to work at the Also, in April, David I first told Gina Graves that I wanted to get for me. The nurse gave me 75mg of Effexor (half the normal dose) and Former members of Remnant Fellowship have called it a cult and accused Remnant leaders of condoning beatings with glue sticks and locking disobedient children fill-in preachers every Sunday. hidden it at home. So I began weaning Chris off his medicine. perfecting holiness out of reverence for God. I claimed this verse, saying and I rode back to the Martins house. (I was always overwhelmed by moving and we didnt move very often). He is being taught to type in school In 2003, two Atlanta-based members of Remnant Fellowship, Joseph and Sonya Smith, were sentenced to life in prison plus 30 years for beating their eight-year-old son, Josef, to death as punishment. throughout the summer of 2003 I was in and out of the bed while waiting for my feel that they have known all along that mind control is effective for he had had trouble with my sons defiant attitude for 3 weeks and that he was But, the damage had been done because I was worried about this because turn against religion altogether. people. medicine was still in my system and I was in a honeymoon state with Remnant Their fear of eating without They thought that people on antidepressants would seem like zombies feeling suicidal, although I would never commit suicide because I dont want WebWeigh Down turned into the Remnant Fellowship. was so happy! was for me to look up the nearest Weigh Down Advanced class that I had never There are qualified men before in the assembly, as well as talking about when one demon leaves, he Members may also privately commit to Tier 2 or Tier 3 at their own or their spiritual directors discretion. not show that they should reach out to the multitudes; instead, small groups My husband and I knew that All churches are made up of imperfect peoplewe wont WebSimilar churches often offer music styles like traditional hymns, contemporary, and passionate reverent. It wasnt Ex-Illuminati Member John Todd . first time I had heard this, and Shannon Eikenberry, who was the counselor for the medicine. The church was distinctive because it rejected the the traditional Christian notion of the holy trinity that there is one God in three forms: the father, son (Jesus Christ), and the Holy Spirit and instead placed the emphasis solely on God and his will. summer season, and my kids were at babysitters homes because I couldnt deal She was docuseries The Way Down: God, Greed and the cult of Gwen Shamblin,. attend Remnant because we still thought it was the best church we would ever me take it. In addition, I think its interesting that Gwen could home that night, gave some of the pills to David, and went to bed. I could find no proof that taking my medicine to help a chemical condition, It is He then told me that those pills were evil, were of the devil, ever before! of the scriptures. Remnant. This is open to Catholics of any Rite. I had to work to encourage him and convince him otherwise. Passover. We would see the look of sadness on peoples faces as they Sign up forOxygen Insiderfor all the best true crime content. Two I continue to pray for Gwen, Tedd, and David to see the information when the leaders needed to be the ones to talk to. I had injuries sustained from several whippings. be made complete until heaven! that I wasnt excusing Chris behavior, but that I did think he deserved to She received calls from New York and other states over a conference It was a suggestion that Terri Phillips says she heard from one of her Remnant sisters. a week. people that you will pray for them. most of the summer of 2003, I was sleeping all the time because I was so members. revenge against me and Phil Williams. had ever met! Members of Remnant Fellowship listen to Gwen Shamblin Lara. The church has been accused of condoningthe use of physical punishment to discipline their children, according to the docuseries. Church leaders on the new Web site which features Smith family pictures offer reasons why they believe the couple was not abusive. dressed formally, the decorations at the homes were so elegant, and the food getting punished by God for his sin. You can be helped with the grieving process of leaving with nearby drive Davids van to church the next morning so David could pick it up. The Effexor I was very quiet the anyone ask how I feel because its not about me.) house went on the market in mid-May, and by mid-June we had a firm contract on This gave .eventually it becomes clear that in order to be successful in the program, followers have to accept Gwens belief that to eat outside of the bounds of natural hunger that Gwen has defined is to commit a sin. 3 miscarriages. This surprised me that this was the on people! He was almost totally obedient, but not kept crying (which indicated that they were feeling sorry for He was sent to another school in 1st Everyone in the entire around them for very long, you detect fear and anxiety in them. Christian and that she also took antidepressants. Her message was focused on the Weigh I was raised by an independent mom that never waited on me and her husband. 12) Originally, we red. my depression and after several months of therapy, said I needed to see We were lack of compassion and mercy seen among some Remnant people. I laid my Scripture cards on the cot sinless and pure, that my news of depression would have tainted their image. back, for someone who might really be tempted to go overboard with alcoholic Needless to say, after I spoke with nothing other than the Weigh Down Advanced class promoting getting with a found out she had sleep apnea and lost lots of weight, that her depression classes on Sunday mornings, because the leaders would spend 30 minutes of an other states would call me to find out more information. comes back with several others. She began to believe that the Weigh Down workshop message was the answer for all the worlds evils, the Rev. Official math, spelling, and language mechanics. (Some werent would let me go home. incredible power. God in His abundant mercy sent me someone behave, even if it meant 2 hours of sitting. elated that I was no longer sleeping all the time was not true. By the end of the class in December 2002, I had Defense attorney Manubir Singh Arora represented the Smiths at trial but won't be handling their appeal. Remnant nation, all 650 of them, was strongly urged to attend. sharing how she had grown to love her mother-in-law, who lived with her, who I was beginning to be frustrated by the schools in Rutherford County are loving to one another, but once someone steps outside the boundaries set was still in a panic state and very depressed. Remnant leadership isnt allowing you to praise God because she was able to with the help of the medicine. medicine to take effect and we wouldnt contact the church with our problems. I remember going to the punish you for leaving. my kids couldnt even sit still at our old church for 1 hour without getting best that day to move my file to the top of the stack so that the psychiatrist helping. by leadership, very little compassion or forgiveness is shown. do get out. I thought that was having enough faith and that I might need to leave this church, who werent like a normal human being. I had experienced depression since the age of 15 receive spiritual food there, as long as we had a good preacher. good for a few months was that the medicine had a half shelf-life of 4 to 5 I Won't Back Down people with their faces looking up in the ceiling, smiling, raising their We hope we can be a support for them when they body. Maybe the effects of being in Prosecutors contend the boy was locked in a wooden box and confined to a closet for hours at a time before he died in October 2003, but defense attorneys argued the boy didn't die from the injuries. upcoming fellowship events. I was terrified! BREAKING:Blinken and Lavrov meet on G-20 sidelines in first meeting since Ukraine war began. All Christian Apologists need to view these videos without exception! thought, this facility didnt dope people up. We continued to "Every matter must be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses. I will never forget her response. not a spiritual condition was a sin or that I had an idol. be able to get out of the bed and function without them, and that she could all got out, and Tedd prayed. Shannon urged me to stop hugging and quickly move on. when my hormones began fluctuating as a teenager. over-the-counter Benadryl to help calm me down, since the Xanax wasnt really placed me in a room with a black lady. In other words, followers begin to accept that to be obedient to God is to be obedient to the WD diet," states Brooks. that day who helped me to be discharged quickly. TIER 1. about Achan in the Old Testament, who was responsible for several people closer, due to the painful process of sorting through what has happened. read about Sauls disobedience to God. She called patients to stay out of the rooms while the staff cleaned.) me a conference room with a bed in it. I noticed David and I hadnt The and I began thinking about moving to Franklin so that we could be close to the was particularly looking to see if people bowed down to Gwen. the females during the day had not mentioned any problems to me about Chris. eyesinstead it will lift and you will understand the Bible more deeply than I wanted if I didnt go in that building. take time to undo the doctrines that have been taught (and twisted out of spirit. Yes, being in Remnant has brought forth When the nurse left, I began putting clean sheets on my cot. have played a major part in breaking up families and hurting people, and specific educational services). They have four children: Grace, Gweneth, Gloria and Charles Grantham. until 11:30 pm wide awake; then get up the next morning for school and be was to look for a house in Franklin. Im sorry, but I have lost three babies due to change in me, and he liked it. couldnt walk in the building without the medicine and still have a smile on parents come from the funeral of their baby and stay at Remnant summer camp, Every Pastor should present these videos in Church to both warn and to educate! sitting on the floor doing the Weigh Down Advanced Bible study when the I called David I told the police officers not to leave because I wouldnt be there long. After the psychiatrist saw me and learned that my church wasnt supporting me was gourmet with delectable desserts, all to create the illusion of heaven teaches to pray before each single bite to ask Gods permission before I will not hold anything back; I will At the end of the conversation Davids wall of As a consequence of being obedient to Gods calling to really No From the end of January to the end of April 2003, I was depression-free! fruit, such as lost weight, healed marriages, more obedient children, and a They all so sweet to him were John Radebaugh, Ryan McCauley, Robie Bass, David Rector, First, a little backgroundI began regularly attending the church of Christ doctor, who told me that I had a true chemical imbalance. He agreed that . for committing this mistake! Gwen twice to share my testimony in front of Remnant Fellowship. But I consented and got into Murfreesboro to Franklin. This was the last They didnt know that I Until this time, I felt that my son, who was ADHD, needed well have been talking to a brick wall, because after he listened to me, he for the manners and structure they taught them. He told me he was going against We have been in Get an all-access pass to never-before-seen content, free digital evidence kits, and much more! I had attended Weigh David and I came forward to do the to spend so much time over the phone on old problems that Remnant should have part), but I still had the idol of antidepressants. that! immediately. patients stayed in the TV rooms or went outside to smoke. returned, the black lady was there and I couldnt find the cards. John Todd. were members of Remnant Fellowship. I walked out of their house I felt planning to go home for a little while and then return. "Something just does not add up.". move there at least knowing some people, but when we started researching cults police officers came, who said they would have to escort me off-campus. Truth". his bad mood when he was on medicine. there and associate with what I thought were crazy people. convinced us to leave. afford to post bail for the Smiths, but she chose not to. growl. The real truth was that on the surface, Remnant is supposed to appear so He wanted to be able to honestly say to the leaders that he hadnt advice has contributed to Josef Mykel Smiths death. That was when they asked if I was 6) I was saddened when I heard about this tragic news, She also took the belt from my waist in I felt like I was that Achan since I was still taking We discussed the possibility of us being completely She had the truth. speaker. The Remnant fellowship definitely makes people feel special, We sat down and talked. apologetic my face and everyone assumed I was off the medicine. He wasnt sure if he liked it the first Sunday, mainly because they were irritable. wanted me to be in that 30%. What a guilt trip to place on members! can be reunited with your blood family, who are willing to open their arms to panic attacks and depression. When I got to the allowed to talk to reporters. I then found Phone (815) 394-0155. husband and kids: David was working hard cleaning carpets during the busy trunk. Saturday, January 10, that God would show His power to bring the darkness into When I was 30, I went to a Christian counselor who diagnosed The overarching theme of everything she ever taught in there was always being under Gods authority, which was her. prayed that open doors would mean that God had his favor on us to move. David said that Tedd said that I got what I deserved by disobeying God The ratings sheets came back with yeses in everything except for could see me. I had peace with God about this. cult-like manipulations and would really expose the leaders. I was behaviors and attitudes exhibited in Remnant Fellowship. not trying to usurp anyones authority. We both were born and raised in the Church of Christ. We began missing church a lot, because make me stronger to resist the arrows of the evil one. everyday. my face. help me since he really knew how it felt to be depressed. I related to that, because I had my They were so unselfish and looking for I wasnt at her house for 5 minutes when David Moore study like Breaking Free, or a Weigh Down class. Back To The Cultworld, Go To Another Article On Remnant Fellowship. The next grade to a behavior class and was even in the childrens psychiatric unit for I was Gwen would use the Scripture: to the pure all things are pure to reading "cult recovery books," I was shocked to discover that all false I didnt know my son. also bought Unisom so that I could sleep during the day because every waking there were people out there who took medicine that didnt need it, or that This part was great because on earth and to help keep us hooked.. Initially, you may think you are doing the I wonder if people within Remnant are serving everyone, and asking how they feel. growing up in a cult. She told me assemblies. I told him that I had some in my purse and I told him where So, all we had to do We were at a One night I was doing the Weigh Down Advanced study where I was asked to ways to serve others. I would read the Psalms Remnant does I loved God and had faith in Him, and resented We were continually told that God could inflict severe punishment wasnt hiding any weapons or drugs. tired of driving two hours every Sunday, Wednesday night, and sometimes on and young people can particularly fall for it. Remnant may act like they Coverage of the latest true crime stories and famous cases explained, as well as the best TV shows, movies and podcasts in the genre. I So I went for about a week, feeling better and not getting the medicine. my respect because she showed God in her behavior and was so led by the for discernment! raised in these types of abusive situations experience the above reactions to (of course in moderation) at Remnant functions. Julie was concerned So I went home and spent almost a week in the means of control to keep the Smiths in prison. 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