* I would like to talk about Roberts wife, Darla, and their two children for a minute. CINDY: Like a convertible (inaudible), 1978 Buick Century 4-Door Sedan (This photo is NOT Hansens Buick, but it is similar). Can you describe that again to me, Cindy? You see, when we was driving I observed everything. In 2007 his multi-billion payoff shorting the overheated U.S. housing market made him a global industry superstar. The FBI had been spot on about everything. For only $3 you can help this site stay up and running! When will it be released? CINDY: Bob and then Don. It was Don, and then OK, it was Don and then after we were at his place, and he was going to take me to the airport, he was saying about Bob. Like a station wagon. Darla eventually obtained a teaching job in Russia, and as far as I can tell she remains there today: the kids made lives for themselves somewhere in the American Midwest. And Ill give you one guess as to who fit the bill perfectly! And hes about five six, weighs about 170 pounds. FLOTHE: About how long did you have contact with him on Friday? Hudgens: Nothing that I want to talk about quite yet. FLOTHE: Youre positive. He was the lead reporter on the Pulitzer Prize-winning "Lawless" project and is part of an ongoing collaboration between the ADN and ProPublica's Local Reporting Network. CINDY: Um I think it was around six. CINDY: The Buick car, inside the garage. The killer received a 461-year sentence in February 1984, pleading guilty to four of the murders. Roberts first kill is either believed to have occurred in 1971, 1972, or 1973. CINDY PAWLCYN Award-winning chef, cookbook author and founder of a dozen restaurants, Cindy Pawlcyn reveals a few of her secrets to starting a successful bus. Vanessa Hudgens turns in a surprisingly raw and emotionally powerful performance in Scott Walker's suspenseful thriller, The Frozen Ground, as 17-year-old street hooker Cindy Paulson, one of. Eventually Robert did admit to having raped dozens, but would only confess to the murder of 17; he even lead police to the shallow graves of twelve more corpses. How do you feel about the final film now that youve seen it? He would abduct the women and take them to remote places outside the city, sometimes driving them and other times he would fly his private plane. Cause that was the smallest he had. Im sorry I dont remember the right dates and so forth. Though he was doing so well in his new life, Roberts dark urges grew stronger by the day; he could and very often did hunt all of the Alaskan game that he liked, but each kill steadily grew less satisfying than the last. She gave me an extremely solid foundation and told me her earliest memories that she had until where she is to this day. That seemed to be a common enough thing to do, plenty of troubled Americans had moved to Alaska to start a new life, and this worked out splendidly for Robert! CINDY: I gave him the number at the Big Timber. When he was arrested for the sexual assaults, Robert had claimed to have been an innocent man, and she believed what hed told her; shed had her suspicions that her husband may have been a cheater who possibly enjoyed the company of an escort every once in a while, but a woman killer? Uh, FR: Would it have been during the time when your wife and children were out of. Only 12 bodies of the 17 women Hansen confessed to killing have been found. After being raped and tortured in the basement of Hansen's home, teen sex worker Cindy Paulson made a run for it at the airport while her captor was busy loading his plane. And he had a green shirt or else it was plaid. This is Installment Three of the September 27, 1983, interview of Cindy Paulson by Sgt. to start my podcast and YouTube channel. Or was it some other color? Roberts father, an overbearing man who never did care to have a decent relationship with his son, expected young Robert to be busy at work in the familys bakery whenever he wasnt in school. I just wanted a chance to work with Robert Rodriguez. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Were able to have honest and trusting conversations about how to make BC, and hopefully the industry, a place We must take small steps to make a positive change in the workplace and industry and, right now, its We work to create a more inclusive space because everyone deserves to live and embrace their truths. But aside from that, he just let me play and take it wherever I wanted. Darla had truly believed that if she stuck it out, she could eventually talk Robert into going to church with her more often she thought that she could save the soul of the man shed vowed before God to love, and her marriage would be fixed as well. Though Cindy was able to describe her attacker and his home in great detail, it didnt make any difference. She also discussed her fun cameo in Machete Kills and her upcoming films, Gimme Shelter and The Kitchen Sink. Stephen Hoage, operations administrator for the state medical examiner's office said: 'We know what happened to her. How did talking to the real Cindy Paulson inform that process? Thats not all he said, of course. He spent many of the final years of his life working as a jailhouse barber. Cindy Paulson Interview with Sgt. FLOTHE: Youre trying to get out? I think it will be a fun change of pace for me. No matter what her husband did, even after hed been arrested and jailed for rape, she remained by her husbands side. Hes amazing. Now, from reading your report apparently you had a pretty good description of the house that you gave the police. We are all the same. CINDY: They were a dark brown. The Big Timber, Mush Inn, I dont, sorry, I cant remember which one. You know, like mine is. John Paulson. FLOTHE: How did you know this? He remains active in the markets. FLOTHE: Did you notice anything about the sights? FLOTHE: In your face? "You could hear him screaming at his lawyers," Rothschild said. When I read it, I saw it as a character development project, but seeing it overall pulled it all in together. Process Intensification with BC:Ntensify, Technology and Innovation Leadership Team, Brown and Caldwell looks to the future of 75 years and counting, Black History Month and Engineers Week: Why I became an engineer. Kidnapped: The True Story of Cindy Paulson, Murder in Alaska: Teen Killers In The 80s, Arrest of Robert Hansen: Nothing But the Truth, Sort Of, Darla Hansen: The Better Half of Robert Hansen, Hansen's Past Warranted Property Search - Butcher Baker, A Killer's Turning Point, Badly Missed - Butcher Baker. FLOTHE: Did you get into his car, or did he just get out or what? And it may not even be in there. Hansen worked in a supply room at the Lemon Creek prison in Juneau, where in 1990 authorities found an aeronautical chart, a hand-knit winter hat, magazine articles on plastic explosives and correspondence with a Juneau boat broker. FLOTHE: And did you pick an individual out that was Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Investigators have said that in some instances Hansen would rape the women but return them to Anchorage, warning them not to contact authorities. I personally loved it. FLOTHE: OK. Was it a blue color? He picked her up in town and told her he was driving her to his home in Muldoon, he said. Can you tell us how that all came about? FLOTHE: And what color were his boots? Vanessa Hudgens: I was a little bit shaken up that this guy who was well respected in the neighborhood and everyone knew as the family man could have done such atrocious and heinous crimes. Thats why he did it. If you do exactly what I tell you and don't give me any problem whatsoever, there's going to be no -- you won't get hurt in any way, shape or form," Hansen told troopers, according to news accounts at the time. He joined the ADN in 2004 and was also an editor and investigative reporter at KTUU-TV. CINDY: Uh huh. Hudgens: It was so helpful. Its going to have to be a little bit vague on that. FLOTHE: OK. For the life of me, i cant see any reason why the state of Alaska, or anyone would keep robert Hansen alive after his conviction Why would you keep a monster like this alive and have the peoples tax money feed such an animal for years.. Cant wrap my head around it.. Alaska does not have the death penalty and has never had it (since Statehood). Were the lights on or off? Wife is shocked after husband of 15 years asks for permission to have an affair: 'I don't know what to do'. Part of the Daily Mail, The Mail on Sunday & Metro Media Group. Im not going to help you do that, all right? Her eventual getaway was central to Hansen's ultimate capture and confession to the murder of dozens of women. As broad as that seems, its kind of the plan. Glenn had been involved in the investigation of three murdered women; these victims had obviously been connected, they had all been discovered at least partially nude, theyd been shot with the same type of firearm, and buried in a shallow grave. I play Cereza which means Cherry in Spanish which says a lot about the character. FLOTHE: I have its kind of a picture book with different types of guns in it, OK. Would you take a look through that picture book and see if you see a gun that might be similar to the one that this man had? Daigle, the corrections official, said that as far as she knows Hansen never saw the film. I mean, man, what he did to me, he had to kill me. Her ability to accurately describe every detail of her ordeal was crucial to establishing her credibility as a witness. CINDY: About eleven, eleven-thirty. But he had brown socks on. FLOTHE: Did he give you change? In this installment, Cindy talks about and proves her observational powers, in this case related to Robert Hansens house on Old Harbor Road. Your email address will not be published. CINDY: Um hmm. CINDY: Yeah, it had a really long barrel. He was right to worry, state officials later said. CINDY: A little moustache. Its way down on the bottom. FLOTHE: You also described the outside of the house. Construction of the trans-Alaska oil pipeline ignited nightlife in the city blocks surrounding his bakery. With Patreon you will receive exclusive posts and more, Morbid N' Macabre - 2023. He takes me up the stairs to the garage, I mean, to the house. So it was nice to kind of test my own mental and physical strength. The date on her grave marker is April 24, 1984, one day off the date the body was found. It seems that every source I looked at says something different, though generally within those three years. OK, that wasnt even back there. FLOTHE: Did he approach you or did you approach him? CINDY: Cause they told me, the police officers had told me when we went to the hospital. I just want to do everything. There were horns. CINDY: Hey, for a blowjob in the car, hell yeah. Its likely that it was around this time that the rapist decided that hed no longer leave behind any victims who could turn him in to the police, and that he would dispose of these women in the best way he knew how. CINDY: About ten minutes. He was afraid of running into friends, relatives or acquaintances of people who knew his many victims. At the motel, police found 17-year-old Cindy Paulson, still handcuffed, huddled fearfully in a room. Glenn Flothe, AST. CINDY: Um hmm. I know I have support from leadership and throughout, and thats a great feeling., As the executive sponsor of BCs employee network group for women, Cindy worked to amplify the Balance and Belonging culture and framework internally and externally across an industry with historical nature of the industry being male dominated. And if Im not mistaken I think he got green or blue eyes. Hansen likely would have continued to kill and escape justice if one of his intended victims hadn't escaped. Hudgens: I dont like talking about anything until I sign my contract, which I havent done yet, but it will happen most likely pretty soon. Robert thoroughly enjoyed hunting humans; these ladies were savagely murdered with his favorite weapons: a Ruger Mini-14 and a hunting knife. He joined the ADN in 2004. Required fields are marked *. I wish we could say for sure that this was Roberts final victim, but its thought that there were probably more. 'We're not trying to solve the crime. Robert had been in the habit of keeping a souvenir from most of his hunting sessions, whether it be wild game or women. It seems most likely that he was arrested for the sexual assaults in December of 71, remained in trouble with the law (he served a short prison sentence) throughout 72, and probably started killing after his release. CINDY: The garage was opened. (sound of paper being torn off a tablet) Now her body has been exhumed from from the cemetery at Anchorage Memorial Park with the hope that DNA testing and facial reconstruction will lead to her being identified. I said, no, we can go to my place. He said, no, he didnt want to. The serial killer wasnt even on the suspect list anymore, hed been completely cleared. Its nice because I can watch it from an outsiders perspective and be sucked into it, which is cool. This actually wasnt an uncommon thing for parents to do during this time period, plenty of us lefties in past generations were forced to conform, but apparently this deeply scarred this young man. The website seems to belong to the author of the book which inspired the aforementioned Hollywood movie, his name is Leland E. Hale. Your email address will not be published. CINDY: (interrupting) It was an older car. Cindy later recounted that Robert had offered her $200 bucks for oral sex, and that hed pulled a gun on her just as soon as she stepped inside his vehicle; the teen was driven back to Roberts home where she was chained to a beam by her throat, raped, and tortured for several hours. Yes, Cindy Paulson is a real person, and as shown in the movie, she was one of the many women who were abducted by Robert Hansen. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. FLOTHE: Really dark color. He had been placed in medical segregation in Anchorage, which is akin to being in the hospital, Daigle said at the time. FLOTHE: And contact Cindy at this phone number and this room number CINDY: Uh huh. Cindy Paulson was just 17 years old when she moved to Anchorage Alaska. CINDY: Uh huh. Join Facebook to connect with Cindy Paulson and others you may know. Required fields are marked *. A mousy, seemingly easy-natured family man, Hansen admitted to killing 17 woman and raping another 30 over a dozen years in the 1970s and 1980s. See if theres anyone in here that you might recognize. Hansen said she had a knife in her purse. My left wrist, right there One night she picked up a small, skinny client with a pock-marked face who wore glasses and spoke with a stutter. Darla was an exceptionally intelligent woman with a masters degree in education who made her living by tutoring school children; she was also a devout Christian who believed in God and the sanctity of marriage with all of her heart and soul. RH: Yes. FLOTHE: What kind of boots? FLOTHE: Were the handcuffs tight? Once inside, Hansen pulled a gun on her and placed her in handcuffs. So its early in the morning This looks black but its actually blue. FLOTHE: He had an automatic garage door opener? (inaudible) The horns that were up there, the big ol antler horns, theyre called. CINDY: Thats it. FLOTHE: Hmm. Did you know the street name? CINDY: Theres no trees in the front yard. He died in prison last month aged 75. CINDY: Yep. Cause at the time, I was very new to Alaska and I dont never go to anybodys house. CINDY: Same. He was really sweet. Brown and Caldwells former Chief Technical Officer Cindy Paulson understands that for Balance and Belonging to thrive, employees need to be who they truly are. CINDY: Uh huh. What about Gimme Shelter which is completed? CINDY: I believe it was on a Friday and I gave him my telephone number and he called me on a Saturday. CINDY: Well, I didnt. "In his mind there were good girls and bad girls.". CINDY: No. CINDY: Uh huh. Other times, he would let the women go free in the wilderness and then hunt them with his rifle. She left the ADN in October 2018. So you go into the garage, what happens then, when you get into the garage? Lemon Creek Superintendent Dan Carothers called it "the bust of the decade" for Alaska prison officials. CINDY: Number five. Hudgens: It was definitely the rape scene because we recreated that room to a T. I mean, everything that I was seeing, the emotions that I was feeling, were the exact same things that these young victims had gone through as well, and it was crazy living that, even though its make believe. And the reality of it is were all human. If his social life hadnt been bad enough, he never could find much solace at home, either. CINDY: Nope. "My gosh, she is running naked and in handcuffs on the streets of Anchorage scared to death," Rothschild recalled of the scene. Lets touch on this serials background for a minute, because thats important when looking at a killer. FLOTHE: What did he ask you? The Special Agent had known that this killer would be into collecting trophies from his victims, that he would have very little self worth, and that hed have a burning hatred for women you know, the usual type thing, but to pinpoint this killers stutter is truly astonishing! CINDY: The Buick Century. Now her body has been exhumed from from the cemetery at Anchorage Memorial Park with the hope that DNA testing and facial reconstruction will lead to her being identified. (laughs) Its a quick little cameo. After hed heard what Cindy had to say, Glenn knew a few things to be true. She is known for her incredible homemade bars that she shares with riders while they enjoy the scenic views of nature along the trail. FLOTHE: Did he point the gun at you at any time? The killer had been in declining health for the past year, the department said. Hudgens: Its important for me because its easy for people to make snap judgments about young women in her position. Hansen died around 1:30 a.m. at Alaska Regional Hospital, said Sherrie Daigle, deputy director of administrative services for the Department of Corrections. As part of his plea deal, Hansen agreed to help authorities find the graves of the murdered women. Sadly in a roundabout way Robert brought upon his own two children the same thing which had traumatized him, his kids were bullied mercilessly for their fathers evil acts. Flothe (Sep 27, 1983) Cindy Paulson talks about Robert Hansen CINDY: (Inaudible) gave the gentleman my telephone number and asked him to call me. FLOTHE: Wasnt painted. Rothschild recounted watching Hansen transform into "the monster he was" the day prosecutors sat down with Hansen and laid out the evidence against him. CINDY: I think he gave me a five. The security guard had came up I dont know if I was in the back laying down when he [the security guard] did. CINDY: Yep. To the left is the basement. Hudgens: It depended on the scene. We all have the same needs. Published: 09:00 GMT, 4 September 2014 | Updated: 01:18 GMT, 4 December 2016, Alaskan serial killer Robert Hansen, who killed 17 women in the early 1970s and 80s. Hansen served time briefly at Lemon Creek Correctional Center in Juneau until authorities found escape plans stashed among his belongings and sent him to Seward, officials said at the time. CINDY: Yes, its real Hell yeah, Im bothered by it. CINDY: All right. (crying) CINDY: In jeans. It became very accessible to me. As shown in 'The Frozen Ground,' Cindy Paulson was Hansen's only victim who got away while he was trying to load her into his aircraft. In this installment, Cindy provides additional information about how she met and ended up with Robert Hansen. Instead he would immediately force her to board his small bush plane, and hed fly her out to a desolate area near Knik River where he would sexually assault her in a little shack which hed occupied there. Thats another character that I dove very deeply into. The remains of an unidentified victim of an Alaskan serial killer who hunted down his victims as if they were game have been exhumed in a bid to establish who she was. 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