WebCan Thanos beat Captain America? Why is Doctor Strange able to go toe-to-toe with Thanos? I see the other answers are focusing mostly on the fact that Doctor Strange used the Tim The only reason for that is he has the Infinity Stones. The time loop only worked on Dormammu like that because his realm had no relative time. All the latest gaming news, game reviews and trailers. Strange saw millions of possible futures and only saw one that ended in victory and that was the one that happened in Endgame. Almost all of the heros have made major self sacrifices in order to save others in the past. Much like Thanos was likely too powerful, quick and or intelligent to let his hand be cut off, Thanos likely could have broken out of the spell. Looking for all the world like a vengeful Hamlet, Kang holds aloft Thanos' skull, triumphant. But it's clear that while other options might have been available in certain circumstances, Strange responded the best he could to the threat of Thanos in the MCU timeline. One theory I've seen and agree with is that once Thanos had the Soul Stone he was effectively unstoppable as it became sort of like his "guardian angel." to Dream Walk, giving him the chance to venture across the multiverse and puppet his variants. During Infinity War, in the battle of Titan, Doctor Strange was denied the opportunity of using his time stone against Thanos due to the (IMO) ingenuine-albeit-cop-out limitation of "one victory out of 14,000,605 possibilities" imposed by the scripted writer/directors. So it appearsthat Doctor Strange wanted the Snap to occur, although some fans have taken the theory even further. There could have been a million ways to defeat thanos, but doing so in those ways may have left the stones in tact and thus a few years after thanos dies, someone else shows up and kills everyone. Would have made for a less compelling story though i guess. It takes the power of all three stones to create the laws of physics as we know them, independently they lack the qualities of the other. Strange did use the time stone against Thanos on Titan. Maw stopped Strange from casting a spell with the time stone, the stones thanos has can be used to do the same thing. Seeing as the Book of Vishanti had the ability to grant the reader anything they need to accomplish their goals, the Illuminati probably didn't have to endure five years of hardship before going back in time to get old versions of the Stones the way the Avengers did. Allowing him to sense the passage, even within a loop, was key to wearing down his defenses(and rounding out Doctor Strange'sexploration of the fear of death). He did this for who knows how long until everything worked out exactly how he planned. Strange can see The Watcher without infinity stones. Despite being vital in how they beat Thanos, Strange still surrendered himself to his allies because of his crime and didn't even resist when Black Bolt executed him. New Movie News, Movie Trailers & upcoming Movie Reviews, Eternals Theory: Doctor Strange Gave Up the Time Stone to Delay the Emergence, Doctor Strange 2 Already Proved the Most Powerful Avenger's Worst Loss Made Him Stronger, How Marvel's Eternals Hid in Plain Sight for Thousands of Years, Eternals' Best Twist Was Making Its Superman the Secret Villain, A Lord of the Rings Theory Hints Tom Bombadil Was in the Movies All Along, 10 Actors Who Have What It Takes To Play Superman In The New DCU, The Flash Still Shows Best Look Yet at Supergirl's Costume. As a result, Doctor Strange hands over the Time Stone to the villain, allowing Thanos to take one step closer to wiping out half the universe. Well if other people can show my view of the film is flawed I'll agree but it seemed like hes only able to continuous time loop and return from the dead in the dark dimension because there is no time there only the power of time that he brought with him. Or maybe mind stone could take over DS mind and force him to undo/give up, but Thanos do not have time Stone here so that is out of the option. Or thanos would have been defeated but then our heroes would have died in the process to do it and thus earth is once again defenesless. It's a worse version of seeing the future and then picking a path bc he's actively in combat where high pressure can mess things up. If disintrigate the very stone itself could not stop its effect, I am not sure if someone else can just take it and make it stop without the caster's consent. However, as a Reddit fan theory from user LuckyMe111 points out, Doctor Strange did nothing to stop Star-Lord from punching Thanos and awakening him. Doctor Strange has seen Lang's role in the future, and knows Stark possesses the knowledge and technology to use the secrets of the Quantum Realm to thwart Thanos and reverse the effects of the snap by combining his resources with Hank Pym's technology. It's this method that a classic Avengers villain uses in Avengers: Mech Strike #4 - and though he has no need fortheTime Stone itself, Doctor Strange can certainly emulate his technique, however heinous it may be. While this horrifies the other Avengers, this clearly isn't a power limited to Kang. He once asked Tom Cruise about his supposedly fake-butt in Valkyrie (he swore it was all real). Throughout Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, various characters note with some anger that Strange's only way to beat Thanos resulted in untold pain His best shot would be with the reality stone, but I felt the reality he projected were more of an illusion than actual reality-wraping (otherwise he could re-shape the whole universe with just that one stone instead of having to collect all six), while illusions would work on almost everyone on avengers, being a master of mystic art, Strange MIGHT be able to see through it, especially if he had prep/forseen it. Otherwise any number of other people present when he has the stones uses them or seeks them out or becomes a bigger threat. Plus, while we have seen Thanos used the most basic form of time manipulation but simply turning the time back, he is not a socerer so there is no gurantee he could cast/undo the higher form of spells such as time-loop. Despite Strange memorably saying "There was no other way" before disappearing in a haze of dust, he was quite wrong; there was indeed another way. What if Thanos takes the stone during one of the loops? RELATED:Thanos Action Figure May Reveal His Updated Avengers: Endgame Armor. Thanos snaps 2x. Doctor Strange uses the Time Stone to view over 14 million alternate futures to determine the outcome of their battle but is unsettled to see only one of them showing the Avengers victorious. By sacrificing Gamora and thus earning a contract with the stone, it would ensure he was not killed or incapacitated in such a way that he would fail his mission to obtain all six Infinity Stones. The team utilized the Book of Vishanti to come out of this battle on top as Professor X, Captain Carter, Maria Rambeau, Black Bolt, Mr. What i'm curious about is why strange didnt use the time stone from the past to restore his own so that future threats like dormmamu wont be a problem. 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There are practically infinite possibilities and who's to say that there aren't more but he just didn't look past that first one. Personally, I can't help but ponder that even with four stones on the gauntlet (power, space, reality and soul), Thanos would still have a difficult time (if not downright impossible) beating a time stone Doctor Strange, especially if he has prepped and time loop activitated --. In this flashback moment, the MCU's Illuminati defeated the iconic Marvel villainon his homeworldTitan,as the shot showed the villainwith his double-bladed sword piercing his chest. However the real reason they lost is also the main moral question of the story. Running out of options on their world, this variant of Strange elected to use the corrupting evil tome, the Darkhold. But with the halving of the population, the emergence was delayed for another five years. A largely peaceful reality protected by the Illuminati instead of the Avengers, Doctor Strange is introduced to the group after their own version of Infinity War and Endgame. All the latest gaming news, game reviews and trailers. Before Thanos arrives, the group begins formulating a plan to defeat him. . The turning tide will likely come from the most unlikely source and, with Scott Lang alive and well, the smallest Avenger may ultimately make the biggest impact. I never understood why he didnt open a portal on his left arm while they had him unconscious and then just close it off removing the arm and gauntlet. All the latest gaming news, game reviews and trailers. or does he go into a "void" so to speak only to re-emerge later when the hulk snaps everyone back? That attempt failed. While Sprite is resentful of them, Makkari points out that humans "defeated Thanos, and saved half the universe," showing that the Avengers' actions had an impact on how the Eternals viewed Earth. At the center of Avengers: Endgame was Josh Brolin's Thanos, who continues to make his presence felt through Phase 4after his quest for the Infinity Stones made an everlasting mark on the entire MCU. Then he would use the 4 stones to overpower the time stone and strange would lose his stone. Hence I'm very curious if there are any possible combos/changes that four stones could overcome the power of time Stone and foresight. Impossible, they needed 2 movies out of the Thanos arc. During the intense and heartbreaking final act of Infinity War, Doctor Strange arrives on Titan with Iron Man (Robert Downey Jr.) and Spider-Man (Tom Holland). Wait was there a time stone in the drawer with the infinity stones? Based on feats and logic Strange wins all rounds via time stop. Even during a recently released Eternals deleted scene, Sprite and Makkari have a conversation about the worth of the human population. And found that his passion lays in scriptwriting, where he can combine his love of movies, writing, and storytelling. Not a victory. Thanos on the other hand is the opposite. I think he had the sling ring. During the battle on Titan at the end of Infinity War, it's assumed that Doctor Strange did everything he could to Strength and power are not the same thing. In terms of strength physical strength no, Dr. Strange is not stronger than Thanos. Thanos is literall Or in the round 3 when Strange is allowed foresight vision on what is going to happen? Strange was after destroying the stones. There may be only one way to do that. Ben has taken a 'Film Production & Cinematography' university course, and recently completed a 'Scriptwriting' masters course, both completed at Bournemouth University. Dr Strange did attempt to take him to the mirror dimension. Dr. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. This also came before Baron Mordo was a part of the team, which was also most likely because he wasn't the Sorcerer Supreme of his universe yet, with Doctor Strange involved instead. The portal is just used to travel in universe, Strange can't even use it to get back to Earth from Titan. Tough to say, but I think Thanos might win this one still. Being trapped for millennia would certainly have an impact, but as presented Thanos is a true unstoppable force. Even if they'd cut off his arm, taken the Gauntlet, or if Strange had somehow trapped him in Dormammu's dimension, the Soul Stone would have remained loyal to Thanos, and rescued/saved/healed him from any such fate. You may have also seen/heard him on the Total Geekall podcast, unaffiliated YouTube channels, BBC Radio and CBC News. Strange to truly conjure up what he would consider to be a victory from the situation.". Throughout Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, various characters note with some anger that Strange's only way to beat Thanos resulted in untold pain thanks to giving Thanos the Time Stone and allowing him to kill countless (in the name of eventually restoring them all). Cap verbalizes this difference in ideology when he says that we do not trade lives when talking about destroying the mind stone. 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You'll catch on eventually you practically answered why Strange could use that in the dark dimension and not on earth for example. Theres a reason why Strange didnt use that stone. He tried to on Titan, but this time it is actually in the EOA. In fact, Avengers: Secret Wars title logo and color scheme seem to signal Doctor Dooms Secret Wars upgrade as God Emperor Doom. In Marvel Comics, there are numerous ways one can travel through time, or even manipulate it to one's own advantage. 13 Captain America Cap was able to hold back a nearly unstoppable Thanos with just his bare hands, an impressive physical feat. In the fight Thanos would have wanted Strange to attempt to use the time stone so that he can see the stone and take it. Nope, not happening. His victory in Avengers:Infinity War ultimately comes down to his sheer force of will and ability to do what the Avengers and Guardians wouldn't to achieve his goal. I think that if the Time stone worked in that dimension, the gaunlet would work just fine, I mean the gaunlet is powered by the stones. If heknew about this event, then hemay have taken it into account when giving Thanos the Time Stone. WebWhile on Titan, Doctor Strange and the rest of the gang battle against Thanos (Josh Brolin), ultimately failing to defeat the Mad Titan. The power and space stones can kill or bfr Strange but can't undo time loop (evidented by the Domarmu battle), the soul stone is featless (as far as I can remember). With that in mind, Strange was counting on Thanos using the fully-powered Gauntlet to render it useless following the snap before posthumously enacting his master plan to somehow undo its effects. Doctor Strange likely saw millions of futures where the Avengers beat Thanos, but he would have also seen millions more where the Earth is destroyed soon after by the Celestial. If even one person is standing a few feet away from where they need to be they could be killed, injured, or too slow to help out another. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. He was putting all his focus into stopping Kaecilius and then reversing time. Then we wouldn't have another potentially multi billion dollars movie. First using the six Stones to decimate half of the universe and then themselves, he indicated that he was willing to eliminate all life everywhere in Endgame before the Avengers took him down, turning him and his army to dust. He used it to look at all possible futures and saw that the only way to beat Thanos required him to give Thanos Although Avengers: Infinity War debuted in theaters nearly four years ago, MCU fanatics can't help but debate over one pivotal scene involving everyone's favorite Sorcerer, Doctor Stephen Strange (Benedict Cumberbatch). With T'Challa and Shuri among those lost to Thanos' snap, there may be no other surviving individuals from Earth capable of deciphering and repurposing the advanced technology, making the trade-off for Stark's life even more necessary. I think that is a big reason why the avengers lost in Infinity war. So, if the non-time stones are independent of time, then they could theoretically be able to act outside of normal time and perhaps their combined power lacking time could give their user their independence from time. But a key moment in Avengers: Mech Strike #4 might as well have been written as a rebuttal to Strange's inaction in the film. It took him 14 million possibilities to one that they succeeded in. The following contains spoilers for Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, now playing in theaters. He knew that there was no possible way to win on Titan but that several things needed to happen and if they did not happen exactly according to his vision victory would be statistically impossible. And a time loop isn't quite an immovable object. I also wonder why Doctor Strange didn't just use the time stone to defeat Thanos. By halving life on all planets, he essentially delayed the destruction of many Celestial-seeded worlds. Strange also doesn't like stark, possible he chose the first one stark dies lol. Kind of a plot armor argument I think but to take it sincerely: -We have Thanos w/ Power - Space - Soul Stone, -With the black Order in full power (Minus Gamora and Nebula), -With Chitauri Army (Or whatever assaulted Wakanda in Infinity War), -The Avengers with the Mind Stone (attached to Vision) and Time Stone, -No Hulk (Because he wasn't coming out at the time of infinity war), -Maybe the guardians of the galaxy? As seen following the iconic snap, the Gauntlet was damaged, possibly beyond repair, and having removed Etri's hands following the Gauntlet's construction, it's unlikely that a replacement can be forged. Honestly, we aren't even surprised because Doctor Strange has and always will be an absolute mastermind. In fact, one of these solutions ended up being effective, resulting in Thanos' death during a conflict on Titan. I feel like together, they would have prevented Thanos from obtaining the Time and Mind stone leaving Thor with the ability to cut off his head. Thanos can basically use the stones to make a bubble of independent reality around his body, meaning he can still act outside of time. Does he view the world from a different perspective? Regardless of the reasoning, seeing this newexperience against Thanos adds a whole new perspective to how the MCU progresses over the past 14 years and what could still be lurking over the horizon. Not a victory. After all, to truly beat him required first havinghim win. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. There is always a chance but by himself he would not have much of one with out doing something dramatic like when he fought the Hulk He used the po The theory is very convincing, as it's true that without the Snap, Earth would've likely been destroyed. Maybe the reality stone could counter it if the user can trick the timer into undo the spell/give up the stone. The biggest hole in this theory is that the Time Stone itself could be powerful enough on its own to reverse the damage to the Gauntlet or Etri's hands, as seen by Thanos using the Stone to restore Vision after his temporary destruction at The gauntlet works there. @kell_saloks: I don't think Strange can use another spell while doing time-stop. WebThe Real Reason Doctor Strange Didn't Fight Thanos Himself In Avengers: Endgame - simp3s.net Reproducir Descargar 2 The Real Reason Tom Cruise's Iron Man Wasn't In Doctor Strange 2 - simp3s.net Reproducir Descargar 3 Why doctor strange didn't use time stone on thanos #shorts - simp3s.net Reproducir Descargar 4 How did the Illuminati of Earth-838 Beat Thanos In Doctor Str Let's be real here: Dr. Strange affected freaking Dormammu with his atomic manipulation , if Dormammu had hard time against it, then Thanos has no It has always been evident that Doctor Strange is playing a long game at the end of Infinity War, despite its cataclysmicshort term consequences. In Eternals, the Celestial Arishem reveals that he seeded another Celestial within the Earth's core and that it will emerge when they gain "vast amounts of energy from intelligent life." But there wasn't enough onscreen proof that the events casted by reality stone is more than hyper-realistic illusion, and DS might be able to see through it given that he is a soccerer supreme. Would have made for a Thousands of other tiny variables that could affect the outcome of the battle. Doctor Strange didn't trap Thanos in a loop using the Time Stone in Avengers: Infinity War, but why? So Strange would use the time stone > see himself get snapped away > Then what? Strange wasn't after stopping Thanos. So, even if the reality stone or space stone could be used in ways to counteract the time stone, Thanos himself would need adequate time for his body to actually respond to the stimulus, which he wouldn't be able to do with time stopped/slowed significantly. Marvel/DC. How, exactly, the Quantum Realm and Ant-Man will play a factor in Thanos' final defeat has yet to be seen, but before their deaths at the hands of the Mad Titan, Pym did leave behind a mobile lab to venture deeper into the microscopic world while original Wasp Janet Van Dyne warned Scott of time vortices within the Realm before he returned for an exploratory mission. In Stephen Strange's MCU debut, he beat Dark Dimension rulerDormammu by trapping him in a neverending time loop, dying over and over until the demon agreed to his bargain and left Earth alone. Thanos should still win, although he'd have to try much harder. The Avengers' battle with Thanos for the fate of the Infinity Stones was a brutal one that almost resulted in the destruction of all life in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. The primary alternate reality that takes up part of Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness' plot is Earth-838. 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